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11/18/9 at 1:43pm
 
Has anyone heard that senior citizens like myself will not be getting enough money because there want be a cost of living raise for next year?  Does Obama care that my 10-time cancer ridden wife may not have the things she needs next year?  Hell, no!  The ahole came up with the funds to pay for new cars for people who don't deserve them
, yet he doesn't care that he's going to drive the used car people out of business because one of the stipulations to those dealers were that the trade-ins not be sold!  That's a fact!  I know because one of my friends has had a successful dealership for years.  Who's going to feed his wife and kids after the Obama car deal drives him out of business.  Obama?  Helll no!  Obama is an ass! Pure and simple!  Enough said!

As far as Nam is concerned if the government had kept their nose out of it, we'ld have stomped their  asian butts!  Instead a bunch of good men died for nothing!
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Reply #1 - 11/19/9 at 9:47pm
 
I know what OBAMA needs and needs badly, that would be a vet that was a sharpshooter and I will even let him borrow my lg96 or M95, no problems or questins asked....lol. one of these days one of these good ol boys is gonna step up to the plate and take his ass out, seen it heading that way during elections, im just surprised it has not happen yet.
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Reply #2 - 11/20/9 at 2:58am
 
all that stuffs been predicted before obama previous presidents didnt do nothin about it. the whole US is a mess that one person cant fix in a day, week, or year. Im only speaking from wats realistic. Hes our president for 3 more years just let it go and pray for this countries people to seek more intelligence and discipline for future sake.
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---- btw.. congess runs america not obama.
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Reply #3 - 11/20/9 at 5:34am
 
CC - props.  

Andy - Obama's been pushin for Health Care reform, it has been dragged around, morfed into a load of internet propaganda, called a death list and a plethora of other things by the Republicans.  I give a darn for your wife (mine as well) and millions of others who have to work at just living.  

SS08 - Any protruding brow/cromagnon attitudes should really be posted under the "I'm a closet racist" section of the forums.
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Reply #4 - 11/21/9 at 1:35pm
 
From what I've heard on the health care issue, The so-called health reform is not going to be much at all.  I guess eveyone has forgotten that the Clintons tried to do health reform while they were in the White House.  It's a fact that there will be be no cost of living increase because the government and Obama claim the prices are going down!  Where at?  The price of gas just went up again down here.  It's also a fact that the "Obama Car Deal" is going to drive my friend and others like him out of business!  I'm no racist  He's just a sorry president period with NO experience!IOOB_583 wrote on 11/20/9 at 5:34am:
CC - props.  

Andy - Obama's been pushin for Health Care reform, it has been dragged around, morfed into a load of internet propaganda, called a death list and a plethora of other things by the Republicans.  I give a darn for your wife (mine as well) and millions of others who have to work at just living.  

SS08 - Any protruding brow/cromagnon attitudes should really be posted under the "I'm a closet racist" section of the forums.

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Reply #5 - 11/21/9 at 4:19pm
 
no one has experience being president upon entering the white house
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Reply #6 - 11/21/9 at 5:52pm
 
You are wasting your time Andy. When the racist thing gets throw out they know they have lost and cannot talk like adults anymore.
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Reply #7 - 11/22/9 at 11:21am
 
CornCakes1 wrote on 11/21/9 at 4:19pm:
no one has experience being president upon entering the white house


they? obviously racism wasnt mentioned by me and so therefore there is no loss here tyvm. nice try
this topic shouldnt even be discussed because its to late hes president so accept it and just show loyalty till the next person that wins fair and square enters the white house.

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Reply #8 - 11/22/9 at 11:56am
 
He wasn't even senator long enough to get any experience at government, let alone the presidency.  Let's just face it.  George Bush did such a sorry job that America was willing to take anyone.CornCakes1 wrote on 11/21/9 at 4:19pm:
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Reply #9 - 11/25/9 at 6:46am
 
Obama really shuld thank bush if he hasnt already but... that doesnt make his presidency any less significant. he still has a few years to try and make things better. aside from our internal problems if he can keep the world from going to ww3 id be content.  and id be lying if i said i wasnt nervous hearing a black man was boutta be pres. but the truth is Obama is more educated than you and your momma (put together) soooo. idk.
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Reply #10 - 11/25/9 at 9:51am
 
Here is my 2 cents Obama sucks
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Reply #11 - 12/07/9 at 2:26pm
 
i just think its funny how everything is obama's fault. it doesnt matter who would of been voted the next president, they would be hated by many and loved by tons. the US is just fucked up right, we go from having a the US debt the lowest in recent history to after 8 years now i believe its the highest in history, then the economy is shit. it's just a loss, loss situation for any president. i for one give obama props for being brave enough to become president of a country in such shambles right now. o and just my 2 cents for anybody who talks shit and didnt vote your word means nothing.
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Reply #12 - 12/07/9 at 4:17pm
 
[xXx]LIMES wrote on 12/07/9 at 2:26pm:
i just think its funny how everything is obama's fault. it doesnt matter who would of been voted the next president, they would be hated by many and loved by tons. the US is just fucked up right, we go from having a the US debt the lowest in recent history to after 8 years now i believe its the highest in history, then the economy is shit. it's just a loss, loss situation for any president. i for one give obama props for being brave enough to become president of a country in such shambles right now. o and just my 2 cents for anybody who talks shit and didnt vote your word means nothing.



I've voted in every presidential election since 1967, so I have a right to express my opinion.  That Obama is the sorriest president I've seen in my lifetime!!!!
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Reply #13 - 12/07/9 at 4:55pm
 
[xXx]andy wrote on 12/07/9 at 4:17pm:
[xXx]LIMES wrote on 12/07/9 at 2:26pm:
i just think its funny how everything is obama's fault. it doesnt matter who would of been voted the next president, they would be hated by many and loved by tons. the US is just fucked up right, we go from having a the US debt the lowest in recent history to after 8 years now i believe its the highest in history, then the economy is shit. it's just a loss, loss situation for any president. i for one give obama props for being brave enough to become president of a country in such shambles right now. o and just my 2 cents for anybody who talks shit and didnt vote your word means nothing.



I've voted in every presidential election since 1967, so I have a right to express my opinion.  That Obama is the sorriest president I've seen in my lifetime!!!!


he's not bad at all, any president that would be in office right now would be faced with the same issues. like i said hated by lots love by lots. and the voting was directed to u, it was to everyone as theres a good amount of people in the clan who dont vote.
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Reply #14 - 12/07/9 at 6:43pm
 
[xXx]andy wrote on 11/18/9 at 1:43pm:
Has anyone heard that senior citizens like myself will not be getting enough money because there want be a cost of living raise for next year?


The regular poor people who work and shit won't get a pay raise... I say you prob get as much money a year as these people do working their asses off and still having to do without.
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Reply #15 - 12/07/9 at 8:27pm
 
[xXx]Talic wrote on 12/07/9 at 6:43pm:
[xXx]andy wrote on 11/18/9 at 1:43pm:
Has anyone heard that senior citizens like myself will not be getting enough money because there want be a cost of living raise for next year?


The regular poor people who work and shit won't get a pay raise... I say you prob get as much money a year as these people do working their asses off and still having to do without.



For your info,  My wife and I have no more  money than the people you are talking about.  I paid social security income tax for over 40 years and earned every damn cent we get.  Now that ahole is telling me my wife who's a 10-time cancer survivor and I don't need a cost of living increase next year!  Frankly,
you don't know what you're talking about.  Maybe you will by the time you reach my age of 63.  I hope so.  As far as the poor people are concerned,  Obama should pay more attention to this country instead of being overseas and kissing butt to people who only care about what they can get out of this country.
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Reply #16 - 12/07/9 at 10:50pm
 
Andy..let me ask you this do you have a job currently? If not, then you have nothing to complain about at the age of 63. There are tons of people in the country that still work until they are in their 70's. And don't come back and say I don't know what I am talking about. I see this shit everyday. My mom has throat cancer but I don't bring that up. Yes, shit is expensive but its all about surviving. If I had to cut out my internet, cable, and cell phones I would. If I had to drop out of college and get a second job I would. I know 60 year olds who still have factory jobs just for the simple fact they will have insurance. So, if your not getting a cost of living raise next year then you might as well start figuring out a budget and putting back. I'm done with this silly convo but think of it from a whole countries point of view not just yours and it will make a whole lot more sense.

And the money for the cars wasn't for assholes who didn't deserve it, they were trying to cut down emissions and to jump start the economy.
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[xXx]Talic wrote on 12/07/9 at 10:50pm:
Andy..let me ask you this do you have a job currently? If not, then you have nothing to complain about at the age of 63. There are tons of people in the country that still work until they are in their 70's. And don't come back and say I don't know what I am talking about. I see this shit everyday. My mom has throat cancer but I don't bring that up. Yes, shit is expensive but its all about surviving. If I had to cut out my internet, cable, and cell phones I would. If I had to drop out of college and get a second job I would. I know 60 year olds who still have factory jobs just for the simple fact they will have insurance. So, if your not getting a cost of living raise next year then you might as well start figuring out a budget and putting back. I'm done with this silly convo but think of it from a whole countries point of view not just yours and it will make a whole lot more sense.

And the money for the cars wasn't for assholes who didn't deserve it, they were trying to cut down emissions and to jump start the economy.


I'll stick to what I said before only more so.  I don't know where you're getting your info, but you're wrong again.  No, I don't have a job because of the fact that I worked more years than you and a lot of our members have been alive!  I earned the right to take it easy at this time of my life.  You're too young to understand that aspect of life and need to grow up and mature some before you do.  What kind of experience and and education do you have to tell me how to budget my money.  I have a degree in accounting.  What's your degree?  As far as the Obama car deal is concerned,  I've got a friend that's been in the business for years and he says that so called deal is going to put a lot of people out of business.  Wait until all those that couldn't afford those cars and didn't think about "their" budget start geting repoed, then you'll see what I and a lot of people that have been around a while are saying.  As far as your Mother's throat cancer, I'm sorry and hope she gets through it all with the same kind of strenght my wife has shown.  For your info, I didn't bring it up to get anyone to feel sorry for us.  I did it to give the members' families hope that a person can survive the disease.  I also did it because I care about this clan. Back when I was growing up, young people had respect for their elders and listened to them for advice instead of trying to tell them how to live their lives.   
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Reply #18 - 12/08/9 at 3:20pm
 
Wow....Andy you worked longer than me. Good job for you. That still isn't the point I am getting to. Obama is doing the best he can. He was given a shit postion and  has done pretty well so far.  And I am too young to understand the aspect of like??? That is complete nonsence. These days young kids have no respect for their "elders" because most old people are assholes. I show respect when it is needed to be shown.  And you may be right andy, you are older than me. But I don't care. Being old means nothing except for you have been through more shit. An "old soul" is better than just being old.  And there is a big difference between the two.  And I  didn't bring it up my mom for any pity or remorse, I brought it up to show you other people have shit going on also.  Its all about your willingness to survive. That is the main point. He is doing as good as he can. All the "people" need to do is survive until things get better. Woot Woot.
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[xXx]Talic wrote on 12/08/9 at 3:20pm:
Wow....Andy you worked longer than me. Good job for you. That still isn't the point I am getting to. Obama is doing the best he can. He was given a shit postion and  has done pretty well so far.  And I am too young to understand the aspect of like??? That is complete nonsence. These days young kids have no respect for their "elders" because most old people are assholes. I show respect when it is needed to be shown.  And you may be right andy, you are older than me. But I don't care. Being old means nothing except for you have been through more shit. An "old soul" is better than just being old.  And there is a big difference between the two.  And I  didn't bring it up my mom for any pity or remorse, I brought it up to show you other people have shit going on also.  Its all about your willingness to survive. That is the main point. He is doing as good as he can. All the "people" need to do is survive until things get better. Woot Woot.



With the statement that most old people are assholes, you showed how immature you really are.  You can't even get what I was saying about helping other members in the clan who have cancer in their families have hope that a person can survive, even with having cancer ten times.  I didn't say a word about you feeling sorry for yourself.  You were the one that hinted that that's what I was doing and you were wrong.  As far as soul is concerned my uncle has been a pastor of his church for 40 years and I'ld like to think that part of his teachings were carried on to me, especially the part about caring about people that let you care.  I'm not perfect but I've been around a lot longer than you have.  You're too young to be considering life a pile of shit!  I hope for your sake that attitude about elders and life in general changes.  If not you're in for a rough life ahead.  As far as I'm concerned, our conversation is over with!  Just remember, it's not the older people who are assholes.  It's the young ones who think they know it all when they haven't even experienced life yet that are the assholes!  As far as Obama is concerned, you have your opinion and I have mine.  That's what this great country is all about!  Iwant be answering any more of your posts.  Someday when you've grown up, if this "old asshole's"still around, I may try to talk to you again.  End of discussion.
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Reply #20 - 12/14/9 at 11:29pm
 
I feel the need to chime in. For those that remember me, hello Smiley For these new faces I see, welcome.

What everybody must realize is that not every problem this country is facing right now is Obama's fault. Nor is it necessarily because of former President Bush. A capitalist economy goes through what are called speculative bubbles, and truthfully, nobody has a concrete answer why. This economic downturn was arguably caused by a housing crisis perpetuated by buyers and sellers alike who KNEW they were riding a price increase that was rising far above the intrinsic value for these homes. Who is at fault? Nobody. Everybody. Why would anybody spend money on a good whose value is so unstable? It goes against common sense, yet it happened. And when the price market for these homes collapsed, it triggered the economic crisis we face now.

Point being you can't blame a single man for failing to fix problems he didn't create. It hasn't even been a year since he took office, yet he is the poorest President in our history? That is a fallacy. You can make substantial arguments that men like James Buchanan hold that title. Presidencies are judged in hindsight. If things get better in these tough times (whether or not you can credit liberal economic stimulation policies) many will sing Obama's praise come 2012. If they are no better, there is no guessing his approval.

As for there being no Cost of Living Adjustment for those drawing Social Security, it isn't because Obama doesn't want you to have it. By law, the CoL Adjustments only results in an increase when the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows an increase in the CPI for Urban Workers, and since there was no increase, there is no COLA. (Multimedia File Viewing and Clickable Links are available for Registered Members only!!  You need to Login or Register!!
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So really, my point is that it isn't Obama's fault things are tough. This has been a long time coming, and not every issue we face as citizens can be blamed on the head of the Executive branch. Legislators do more to effect your everyday lives than a President ever could. So, contact your representative if you want the COLA laws changed, because it certainly isn't Obama's fault the Social Security administration followed the law set forth by Congress.
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Reply #21 - 12/15/9 at 12:02am
 
SirDes,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

In just three paragraphs you were able to put, in laymans terms, a consice discreption of todays economic down turn.  The fact that the congress was so willing to help fund the "American Dream" and see that everyone could own a home was unreallistic.  This idea, by the way, started back before Clinton.

Lenders were approving incredible loans with the backing of Fannymae and Freddymac.  I myself was approved for a 450,000.00 loan with a 55,000.00/year income!  They asked about current loans, ect. but never asked about alamony or childsupport which both keep me hovering just above the national poverity level.

I knew that I could not afford such a house and did not pursue it.  Unfortunatley that can not be said for thousands (or millions) of Americans that fell for the "Dream" and the sales pitch from the lenders.

It's a problem thats been coming for a long time but will fix itself quickly.  We have just seen the "correction" in the housing market that many economist have been talking about for some time.
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Reply #22 - 12/15/9 at 12:37am
 
jslickmac,

You are quite welcome! But, thank my Economics 570 instructor and the many Political Science instructors I've suffered through these past few years haha!

I by no means wish to project myself as an expert, I just hope to help people realize that these problems were brewing many many years ago, and you can't blame them on one person. Most times you can't blame them on a group of people either.

And I agree completely that this housing crisis was less a crisis and more a natural correction caused by a capitalist market. Many people love being true blooded American capitalists, but fail to realize that with capitalism comes these inevitable speculative bubbles which causes these minor (and major) depressions. Though the housing market collapse was catalyzed by irresponsible lending, many bubbles that led to economic decline happened in the absence of substantial government interference. Somebody with a huge background in human psychology as well as economics would be better at explaining ANY reason for that than any attempt I could make.

EDIT: I should note that with regards to the COLA and Social Security, it is very unfortunate that there is no adjustment. Thousands of Americans who have paid into the system will not receive enough money this year to stay afloat. I believe there was also a Medicare adjustment that negatively effected those who rely on this program for health care, and that coupled with the lack of a Cost of Living Adjustment will make things very very difficult for many. It is a sad situation.

My only point in referencing the fact that the Social Security Administration was only following the law as set forth by Congress was to show that setting this problem at the feet of the President is quite misguided. Though the proposed health care bill is 1,000 pages long (my estimate, it is a large number!) and I admit, I haven't read it cover to cover, the concept is very clear: The Obama administration thinks that single payer health care overseen by the government is the most efficient way to ensure proper medical care for the many thousands of Americans who do not have it. This includes those on Medicare whose Medicare coverage does not adequately cover their expenses.

Whether or not you agree with this approach, you must see that the proposed health care reform is a clear indication that he sees the problem with not only a failing Medicare system, but the problems that things such as the lack of a COLA only serve to perpetuate the problem. It is an attempt at helping YOU, the individual who has worked their whole life to pay into the Social Security system, and now that system is failing you. Whether or not you think it will work, or it is the best approach, it is evident (to me at least) that this is the President's attempt to address the very issue that you quarrel with him about.
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[xXx]SirDes@OSU wrote on 12/15/9 at 12:37am:
jslickmac,

You are quite welcome! But, thank my Economics 570 instructor and the many Political Science instructors I've suffered through these past few years haha!

I by no means wish to project myself as an expert, I just hope to help people realize that these problems were brewing many many years ago, and you can't blame them on one person. Most times you can't blame them on a group of people either.

And I agree completely that this housing crisis was less a crisis and more a natural correction caused by a capitalist market. Many people love being true blooded American capitalists, but fail to realize that with capitalism comes these inevitable speculative bubbles which causes these minor (and major) depressions. Though the housing market collapse was catalyzed by irresponsible lending, many bubbles that led to economic decline happened in the absence of substantial government interference. Somebody with a huge background in human psychology as well as economics would be better at explaining ANY reason for that than any attempt I could make.

EDIT: I should note that with regards to the COLA and Social Security, it is very unfortunate that there is no adjustment. Thousands of Americans who have paid into the system will not receive enough money this year to stay afloat. I believe there was also a Medicare adjustment that negatively effected those who rely on this program for health care, and that coupled with the lack of a Cost of Living Adjustment will make things very very difficult for many. It is a sad situation.

My only point in referencing the fact that the Social Security Administration was only following the law as set forth by Congress was to show that setting this problem at the feet of the President is quite misguided. Though the proposed health care bill is 1,000 pages long (my estimate, it is a large number!) and I admit, I haven't read it cover to cover, the concept is very clear: The Obama administration thinks that single payer health care overseen by the government is the most efficient way to ensure proper medical care for the many thousands of Americans who do not have it. This includes those on Medicare whose Medicare coverage does not adequately cover their expenses.

Whether or not you agree with this approach, you must see that the proposed health care reform is a clear indication that he sees the problem with not only a failing Medicare system, but the problems that things such as the lack of a COLA only serve to perpetuate the problem. It is an attempt at helping YOU, the individual who has worked their whole life to pay into the Social Security system, and now that system is failing you. Whether or not you think it will work, or it is the best approach, it is evident (to me at least) that this is the President's attempt to address the very issue that you quarrel with him about.


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Reply #24 - 01/17/10 at 11:24am
 
DID I GET THIS RIGHT? :








IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD


LABOR.





IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED


INDEFINITELY.





IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.





IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.





IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM


AGAIN.





IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY


AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.





IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO


POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.





IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET





   · A JOB,





   · A DRIVERS LICENSE,





 


   · SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,





   · WELFARE,








   · FOOD STAMPS,





   · CREDIT CARDS,





   · SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,





   · FREE EDUCATION,





   · FREE HEALTH CARE,





   · A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON





   · BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE


                                                                 


   · THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT


     


   · AND, AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.


    I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION…








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