300% against bunny hopping.. like you said its exploiting and if they got a script or are just good they can get to Long or to B with no problem.

I cant make the meetings on the account of work every sunday.. (till next month WOOT) but you can cast a 'FU BHopper" vote for me.

I dont have a problem with it as long as it isn't effecting game play, most people can only get a couple of hops in a row down so it usually isn't a big deal

just my two cents

concur completely Smurf.  was just making the point of not completly banning bunny hopping for the guys that can only get a couple of hops and not really gain an advantage.

Yeah that's why I said I'll stop, when I want to, I can bhop to b, short a and long a faster than ct's can get there.  I only bhop on ct when I'm heading from one bombsite to the next.

so your telling me, a game the sells itself on realistic combat intended for players to be able to jump faster than they could run.  If you and I have a foot race IRL i'm absolutely certain i'll run a hell of a lot faster than you can hop.  Bunnyhopping is already banned in CEVO and ESEA.  Thanks for you're input, but I think we've already come to a decision.

PS, a few hops here and there is not what we're worried about, and even with a no bhop rule, we'll probably ignore that kind of thing even if we do catch them.  what we're trying to get rid of are the guys using bhop scripts to flawlessly bhop to long or into B before the CTs have a chance to get there.

just to keep facts real i'll start with
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56% of esea players want bhop and seeing how they pay to play will probally get it back soon
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CEVO has rules agenst 1.6 bunnyhopping but never state that in source it is agenst any rules and leave it to situational imbalances of maps performance aka challenge if you lost so we can look for scripts

which brings me to scripts, scripts have always been considered a for of hacking in our community, but you have to be really good at bhop to know if someone is scripting or not (our admins used to bhop all day long without assistance)

CSS beta had no way to Bhop it was added in upon release as they returned bhoping to 1.6 as they felt while the original mod was designed for realisum the arcade play is what keeps the game selling, and they are right.

long point short they only people who ever complain about bhopin' can't do it, cuz if they could they would know that the value of changing the hotzones of a map really don't pan out to how vulnerable hoppin leave you

i know i no longer play CSS but i also know the debate about bhopin has been around since WON hosting, they patched it out of 1.x and put it back in... take note of that

and common the rules list is long enough don't turn css into BFrulebook

thats the logic i'm using with what i say smurf, i understand the need for rules, and respect and usually obey them but in all fact "the way a game is ment to be played" is totally up to the interpretation of the person playing, which is an opinion, which i take neither to be right or wrong



i think the only fair assumption as to how a game ""is ment to" be played is how the game plays without any additional rules, as that is how the developers programed the game to run

yet rules are not a bad thing as modifying the core game can enhance the fun, example 90% of players hate camping, thus rules to limit camping make the game more fun

now what i question is, why having the ability to change the hotzones, mixing things up from the boring same spots every time cuasing excitment (all be it may also cuase mild fustration) how does that hurt the entertainment level of the game, in fact is sounds alot more fun to me

and with camping and bhopping in the same post and them being so opposite i have to ask when you are dead and waiting for the next round would you rather the last surviving players slowly crawl from one camp spot to the next inching to the bombsite, or for one to bhop and get everyone spawned quickly

seems to contradict the current rules, get out of spawn but do it slowly  xD

Bunny Hopping exploits a flaw in the game's engine. I consider it cheating.

Someone who does it manually and only succeeds in a couple hops, I'm not gonna go apeshit over. The ones that irritate me are the script kiddies or the one's who've practiced like mad and can essentially turn on speedhacks at will.